Talkie trains vintage language models on text from before
a stated knowledge cutoff.
Introducing talkie describes talkie-1930-13b,
a 13-billion-parameter model trained on 260 billion primarily
English-language tokens dated before 1931.
Research purpose
The cutoff makes Talkie useful for testing generalization beyond a model’s pre-training data. The project evaluates future-event prediction, scientific and technical novelty, and coding from in-context examples without modern code in pre-training. A modern twin trained on FineWeb compares historical data with modern web data under the same architecture.
Temporal leakage shows that a stated cutoff needs empirical verification. Faulty dates and later editorial material can introduce later knowledge into historical documents, so the effective cutoff is a measured property of the corpus rather than a property of the date filter that assembled it. That is the dataset side of Training data provenance: the origins and timestamps a corpus carries are empirical claims about the records, not guarantees from the filter that selected them.
Data and post-training constraints
Historical text creates substantial OCR noise. In the reported controlled experiments, conventional OCR reached about 30% of the learning efficiency of human-transcribed text. Regex cleaning raised that figure to about 70%.
The project post-trains on structured historical texts and synthetic prompts, then uses preference optimization. Contemporary AI judges and chat partners introduce anachronistic influence into that process.
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Model contributions
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